Saturn and Jupiter in Thailand     



Shani, the deity of Justice, Destiny and Retribution, has His presence in
Thailand. In ancient Siam, one can see his statue.

Saturn, the melancholy planet, was rising at the birth of Dante. He is
prominent in the horoscopes of Goethe and other poets and philosophers like
Sankara. Without His Grace, liberation is not possible.

The most ancient Civilization was the Vedic and Dr Kenneth Chandler puts its
origin at 4900 BC. According to him, the Aryan Invasion Theory is not

Will Durant opined that India " is the mother of us all, through Sanskrit,
the mother of Europe's languages".

Dr Kenneth Chandler writes

"The original theory proposed by the early historical linguistics who
considered these issues was that Vedic Sanskrit conserved the original sound
system of the "proto-Indo-European" language most closely, and that Iranian
and European languages underwent a systematic sound shift, creating
break-away or daughter languages spoken by the people who populated India
and Europe. According to this theory, Vedic Sanskrit was put at near the
trunk of the proto-Indo-European language tree, if not the trunk itself.

This theory has been challenged and hotly debated in recent years, most
especially by
computer linguists.

Since the 1990s, it is now common for computer linguists to hold
that Sanskrit is not so near the root of the Indo-European language tree,
but a  subsequent branch. A currently dominant theory is that the original
Indo-European  language stemmed from an Indo-European proto-language that has since been
lost.  The first languages to break off from the proto-Indo-European root,
according to the  dominant contemporary linguistic theories, was Anatolian (the language of
what is now central Turkey), followed by Celtic (a language found in nearby Thrace in
northeastern Greece, and also Ireland suggesting that there was a commerce
or colonization between Ireland and early Thrace), then Greek, and then
Armenian. According to these theories, theIndian and Iranian language groups
are still later branches off the proto-Indo-European "root."

The linguistic evidence appears to imply migrations of people from the Black
Sea area into India, and yet there is no anthropological evidence to support either a
migration into northern India, or an invasion. Evidence from skeletal
remains, as we saw, as well as pottery and other artifacts, show no cultural
replacement at any time in north Indian Thomas V. Gamkrelidze and V. V.
Ivanov, "Family Tree of the Indo-European Languages," Scientific American,
March, 1990, p. 110 and following.

Dr. Don Ringe and Dr. Ann Taylor, two linguists at the University of
Pennsylvania, with the help of computer scientist Dr. Tandy Warnow,
developed a computer algorithm to sift through the Indo- European languages
and look for grammatical and phonetic similarities between them. Their work,
published in 1996, has thrown up four possible family trees. "We have come
up with a favorite," says Dr. Warnow. The tree shows that the first
breakaway language was Anatolian, an ancient group of languages once spoken
in Turkey. Celtic was quick to follow, spawning Irish, Gaelic, Welsh and
Breton. Armenian and Greek then developed from proto-Into-European.
Strangely enough, one of the later branches to emerge, according to the runs
of the computer programs, was Sanskrit.

It is interesting that the Celts settled in Thrace in northern Greece, just
a short distance from Anatolia. Thrace was the birthplace of the Orphic
mysteries which swept into Greece in the sixth century BC. Celtic is one of
the earliest languages, along with Anatolian and Greek, to break off from
the Indo European proto-language. The technique for self-knowledge described
by Socrates were said to have come from Thrace. The Anatolians of central
Turkey occupied the area near where the pre-Socratic tradition sprang up in
the sixth century BC. This suggests that a technique was passed from India
into the Celtic language.

This is the photo of the statue of Brihaspathi, the preceptor of the
celestials. This highlights P N Oak's theory that the ancient civilization
which permeated the world was Vedic.

How ancient is Vedic Civilization?

In his Origin of the Vedic Civilization, Dr Kenneth Chandler remarks " The
body of literature produced by Greece and Rome from Homer to Proclus spans
roughly 1,300 years. The Vedic tradition produced an even larger body of
literature  from the beginning of the Rig Veda to the end of the classical
period, so it  would probably require at least 1,300 years for the Vedic tradition to
generate a larger amount of literature. If we take 1,600 BC as the minimum date of the
Mahabharata, this would put the beginning of the Vedic tradition sometime
before 2,900 BC. If we take Wintenitz's estimate of at least 1,900 years,
this would put the beginning of the Rig Veda before 3,500 BC.

Dr Frawley and Rajaram, as well as many others, now put the date of the
Mahabharata  war at about 3,000 BC (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi also gives this date in his
commentary  on the Bhagavad Gita). If we add 1,900 years incubation time as Winternitz
estimates, this would put the dates of the Rig Veda back before 4,900 BC."